This is a list of organizations that are actively trying to destroy free software with politics and popularity contests.

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@r000t kicking out rms who is trash and a terrible leader, from a leadership position (which he is demonstrably terrible at) is in no way related to or congruent with the destruction of free software. in fact it is the opposite as his association with fsf is actively harming fsf right now which is why he had to resign in the first place.

@sneak
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

That said, I believe that for the most rabid people demanding his resignation, the current RMS drama is nothing more than a proxy. If it succeeds, the FSF board will have changed and shifted enough that, imo, the next step would be to push out a GPLv4 that says "no nazis", similar to thufie.lain.haus/NPL.html

@r000t you are arguing something totally different then, which is not the claim you made. if you are worried about the slippery slope or that this is some sjw submarine plot, claim that, but it's not: rms needs to go because rms is shit at his job and is shitty to other people.

@r000t ps: you are free to use gpl v2/3 yourself forever.

@sneak
Yeah but a lot of projects say GPLv3 or later.

So, push out a v4 with nebulous definions, and then bully companies who say 3 or later into enforcing them. Companies that switch from 3 or later, to just 3, will be accused of taking explicit action against marginalized blah blah blah

Maybe it's a bit crazy but did we expect any of this madness ten years ago?

@r000t you don't get to choose what licenses other projects use for their code. also, re ten years ago, see my latest toot re jwz

@sneak @r000t The maintainer of libreboot, Leah Rowe, who has personally worked with RMS herself disagrees with you:

If you have software released under GNU GPLv3 *or later*, relicense it to GPLv3-only. Do it now. You'll thank me later. If these bastards win, GPLv4 will be coming out soon and it won't be the GPL.


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@footjamfan @r000t there's no reason to do that, software licensed "gpl-3 or later" is always available under gpl-3.

@footjamfan @r000t people's rms kevin bacon number does not make their predictions about the future any more or less valid :P

@footjamfan @sneak @r000t copyright assignment to the FSF is because they did foresee attempts at renegging/shitbaggery to pull code away from GPL later. They just weren't students of history to remember that when Rome couldn't take Gaul by the blade they did it by subversion.

@icedquinn @footjamfan @r000t lol we are talking about copyrights here which are legal fictions invented by the state and only enforceable by state violence anyway. you can tone down the revolutionary rhetoric and remember that you can always just pirate the codez

@sneak @r000t

RMS' greatest value is in his complete, unshakable support for the Free Software concept. If cared to read his blog you'd find out that the fatso has more posts raving against nazis and drumpf supporters than promoting Free Software, and yet whenever the question of "should this bad person be allowed to use this Free Software" his answer is always "yes, the rules are clear".

Meanwhile all these faggots signing the letter against him are a bunch of retards that are more than eager to break the principles of Free Software and weaken the concept ever further just to stick a middle finger towards an autist that was literally the target of a journalistic hatchet job.

@sheetposter @r000t right now the kiwifarms instance is batting 100% at never producing anything of value. next time this happens i'm muting the instance instead of just the user.

@sneak @r000t
> is in no way related to or congruent with the destruction of free software
Yeah because having groups of people lying to absurd extent and menacing people to push out someone they don't like will obviously not affect anything else.

>kicking out rms who is trash and a terrible leader, from a leadership position (which he is demonstrably terrible at) is in no way related to or congruent with the destruction of free software.

Kicking out rms for being a terrible leader would be an excellent idea. However nowhere in the letter is that idea described. As him being a terrible leader is not the motive, one wonders what the motive is.

Mob
Personal Vendetta of OSI
Corporate Money
All of the Above

Oh, and btw, if “free” software can kick people out, maybe change the name to something more accurate, like “Curated” Software. “Walled Garden” Software. “Microsoft 3.0 Software” (Google being Microsoft 2.0).


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@search_social free software refers to your freedoms to use and modify it. it does not refer to any right you have to participate in software-producing organizations. you're free to fork; there is no guarantee anyone else will accept your patches or even talk to you. you seem to be conflating the two.

indeed, FAANG wouldn't do free software at all if they couldn't ignore contributions at will. good luck patching out chromium spying upstream.

>it does not refer to any right you have to participate in software-producing organizations

Ah, a little Freudian Slip there. Naturally as I was talking about Free Software you should have been talking about “Free Software-Producing Organizations”. But it seems your hindbrain realized that OSI’s behavior indicates they are not in any way a “Free Software-Producing Organization”, and edited your statement before it came out your fingers to a “Software-Producing Organization”. A category that would include, e.g. Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, Amazon, etc.

And that’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with being a Microsoft clone if that’s what OSI wants. But Microsoft gets neither donations nor respect and OSI then deserves the same.


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@snow
Bruh

Context pl0x? I vaguely remember this one.

Tentative bruh tho
@coyote @sneak

@r000t @snow @sneak he actually retracted this statement in particular. "Sex" laws often give people who urinate in public a permanent record and going on a registry, laws can be used maliciously and they are.
@snow @r000t @sneak again, what do you imply by posting this? Most of what he says is accurate, sure it's in bad taste, even weird, but what do you imply?
@snow @r000t @sneak like you realize in both images you sent he was not making the arguments that you're saying he made by posting these? You do realize you're being disingenuous and misleading by posting these? This isn't why he's even being cancelled, they're more worried about his near-completely invented "transphobia" and "misogyny" than RMS defending someone who was blackmailed by Epstein

@snow
Yeah this looks like the case of an autist being picky about language, pointing out that language sucks, not realizing that modern journalists intentionally craft language

Literally "16-17 is a country-specific implementation issue" worded very very very awkwardly. Imagine losing your job at the FSF for being autistic.

And that only mattered once he went against the cancel cult.
@coyote @sneak

@r000t @snow @sneak this is kinda my point, it could be taken in the worst possible way possible, but it's just not how he intended it so it's dishonest. Ideas like this *clearly* indicate some form of being "on the spectrum" and I just don't think he's okay with kids having sex, period (which snow was dodging my questions to admit it)
@r000t @snow @sneak the thing is, I don't remember what he was responding to, and none of these people want to tell me, so I'm left to assume (rightly) that their accusations are in bad faith
@snow @r000t @sneak Mostly a true statement that you've linked here, what do you imply by posting it?
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