@icedquinn @sneak @arh it’s a good excuse to hate someone. Remember that time when a drupal developer was kicked out for his love for BDSM? Yeah...

Free software has turned into politics and now everyone in that movement is a politician.

@newt @arh @sneak my favorite part of that was when the drupal foundation was savaged for kink shaming.

i mean women who show up to gorean conventions literally want men to dominate them it's sort of stupid when its like

please be very manly and posessive
can do


when we said sexual liberation we meant the freedom to be an SJW harpie and hate men we didn't actually mean be a tradwife oh god

actually you have now violated wokeness mr wokester

OH NO.

@icedquinn @newt @arh@toots.alirezahayati.com your example seems very straw man, i recognize the narrative you are telling as essentially correct but it seems to also mischaracterize your adversaries in very obvious ways

@sneak you can look in to the Drupal Gorean fiasco, although i don't know what its easily searchable pet name is.

It was exactly a woke-cancel fail though. One of the developers went to Gorean (BDSM) events as himself and didn't represent himself as a Drupal developer but he did use the same person-name at both places. After some time Drupal-actual found out about it and they said he wasn't welcome anymore because his activities violated feminism or somesth.

Goreans are one of those sex things where a large proportion of the women in the setting are slaves to men but the people engaging with the fiction are doing so voluntarily. So his activities in gorean groups were nowhere near the kind of generalized misandry they 'thought' they were signalling against.

It's cartoonized for the emoji comic but the debacle pretty much went down like that.

@newt @arh

@newt @icedquinn @arh@toots.alirezahayati.com free software didn't turn into politics, lone wolves liked to pretend they didn't exist in society. now society is into software and you actually have to acknowledge being good or bad at participating in society, and sometimes lead. being a good leader (and board member) doesn't give a fuck about how good you are at writing compilers alone in a basement. it is a different skill and being good at one is orthogonal to other

@sneak @newt @arh boards aren't leaders. you're typically on one because you gave a lot of money to the company or somehow politicked your way in to them.

@sneak @arh @newt usually the position is bought and they’re overseeing their investment in some way.

for charities.. might be different.

@icedquinn @arh@toots.alirezahayati.com what does being on a board have to do with his technical aptitude? this is a leadership position, not a development role. he should stay in the fucking basement and make commits, he is unfit to speak to other adult humans or lead anything

@chuculate @icedquinn @arh@toots.alirezahayati.com i think rms is a perfect example as to why this statement is false, tbh. he is harming free software right now.