what are the best desktop ethereum wallets that don't phone-home? every one i've tried so far is some slickass electron bullshit that immediately connects to microsoft, the developers, etherscan, and a bunch of other bullshit.

@sneak can you not use ethereum as a wallet? I just use a bitcoin node as a watchonly wallet and a trezor for signing. no third party required.

@sneak isn't this the whole point of blockchains? running your own node so that you don't have to trust any third party? Otherwise you're slow database maintained by a handful of oligarchs. I never understood the ethereum culture of relying on centralized entities such as etherscan. seems fragile.

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@jb55 you can use them from apps on phones, those computers that everyone uses primarily these days. it's pretty simple really

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