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The "big number better" is corporation mentality. We are not here because "the majority of people are here", we are here because the moderators and admins make it a nice place to talk and share.
Blowing it up 10x will hurt it, it has to be organic and sustainable.

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@Andres @socketwench "big number better" is because it's a one-to-many publishing platform. people who think "big number better" isn't true are people who don't talk to large groups of people; i.e. people who don't matter.

@sneak @socketwench
Well, that is not nice...
I think people matter, even if they have no followers.
The end goal of a social network is community, not being a platform for influencers and celebrities, maybe you misunderstood the whole "people helping people to communicate". Because admins don't care for celebrities and it becomes more expensive for them having less users with "massive audiences", since they depend on the donations from users to pay the infra.

@Andres @socketwench you're simply objectively wrong here. publishing one-to-many is about the size of the amplification, full stop. it's useless otherwise. just because *you* wave it away as "influencers and celebrities" doesn't mean it's not value, and the size of the audience is the *only* metric that matters when determining objective impact or usefulness of publishing. it's publishing, not "a social network". that's retconning.

@sneak @Andres @socketwench
From the start you're thinking in metrics, the rest of us here are not, we care more about communities. If that means Fedi is a failure by definition in your eyes then sadly yes, it is, and probably always will be, you will find a place with better metrics and KPIs with the megacorps that value that and optimize for this instead.

@sneak I don't think you understand what retconning means.

@sneak
> publishing one-to-many is about the size of the amplification

Your assumption is that this is what the verse is for. It accommodates that use, for sure (eg PeerTube). Many of us came here looking for that.

But what we stay for is friendly little chats with the people who pop up regularly in our feeds and mentions, saying insightful, or funny, or heartfelt things. The cool software or art projects we learn about. FediVision song contests.

In a word, community.

@Andres @socketwench

@sneak golly I sure hate influencers and blue checkmark weirdos. I really like being on the fediverse because it discourages those people and leaves space for me to have small one on one interactions with a smaller group of people who know me better.

I really love social media for this purpose and have long since stopped using other platforms.

there are enough people on here like me that the fediverse will always be around so I guess we already won huh.

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