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i'm making a personal promise to myself right now: i'm never typing an apple id email address or apple id password on a mac ever again.

you have to do it on iOS, because without identifying yourself to apple you can't even install free apps on your tablet or phone. i have throwaway, disposable email address apple IDs for that purpose there, which of course serve as permanent unique tracking identifiers. i'm not doing it on the mac, ever.

@sneak I'm doing the very same with Android phones. It's hard or at least uncomfortable but my #fairphone is not that bad with AOSP. I'm still waiting for my #librem5 where I will be in full control 😃

@paoloredaelli everyone is still waiting for their librem. until i can buy it with next-day shipping in quantities up to 1000, i file it as vaporware.

@sneak I feel like you are fighting an impossible battle, but good luck!

Also don't you need an Apple ID to order it? That ID will be linked to hardware ids and serial numbers.

@Cj

serial numbers and hardware IDs are only sent to apple when using apple network services. don't use apple services (e.g. app store, apple music, et c) and these identifiers are not sent.

you are allowed to use apple hardware/OS without touching apple services, you know. it's even a supported configuration, if a bit uncommon.

@sneak can you do OS updates without the App Store or other Apple services? What about Safari updates?

(Not an macOS user BTW)

@Cj yes, os updates are built in, no app store. safari too, i imagine, but i don't use safari as it's spyware by default.

@sneak

However, this excludes a synchronization of data between the devices.

@Th3G4m3r false:

syncthing.net/

there are end-to-end encrypted, private tools for synchronizing your data between devices that don't involve doxxing yourself to apple (or providing them with your keys or plaintext):

sneak.berlin/20200604/if-zoom-

@sneak

Will there also be separate clients for iOS?

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