@bram oh this also repeats the standard lie that unofficial clients aren't allowed to connect to the official signal servers. this is both false from a legal/TOS standpoint, as well as objectively practically incorrect (many people use third party clients with the official signal servers).

please stop spreading this toxic lie about signal.

@sneak Lmao what are you talking about?

Moxie Marlinspike literally shut down LibreSignal because he didn't want third party apps to make use of the Signal services.

github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSi

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@bram what you said and what i said are compatible.

the following things are true:

- moxie doesn't want 3p apps using the official servers

- moxie has no right to stop legitimate users from using the official servers with 3p clients (they are governed by the tos which does not ban clients)

- moxie has no right to stop forks of signal that point at official servers (the code is foss)

- moxie used *the signal trademark* to stop libresignal because he doesn't like 3p clients

@bram libresignal could have legally continued what they were doing and simply told moxie to fuck off if they didn't have the word "signal" in their app name.

@bram so, once again: please do not repeat the standard lie that unofficial/3p foss client software cannot connect to the official signal servers. they can, they do, they are, and it's legal. at least one person (who doesn't work there anymore) at signal doesn't like it, but the ToS does not prohibit users from doing it, and the software license doesn't prohibit developers from doing it.

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