OSMAnd is spyware that leaks your travel history to the OSMAnd developers, even if you have analytics/telemetry turned off!
This unethical and consent-violating data leak exists in both the iOS and Android versions. It's not an accident - they are deliberately phoning home with a unique identifier.
@greypilgrim @jomo yes i the victim must not relate sufficiently to the person appropriating my data without consent. debian and ubuntu solved this problem on a much larger scale without end user tracking. your comment is both factually incorrect (i have been a prod sysadmin in hostile environments for 20+ years) as well as a red herring (due to what i assume is ignorance of the state of the art)
@sneak Let's step back a minute.
You have a legitimate argument.
Time and resources come into question, but that really comes down to a question of value.
And there it is. I don't value the issue as much as you do.
@sneak I have analytics disabled and it pings download.osmand.org on ios privacy report. It happens during a live update or download - it should not be sending IDs (but I havent checked with a proxy to inspect https). Can't wait to hear back from them though, as I've been a long time fan of OsmAnd and a premium subscriber... 😬
@lambdagoat the lead dev says it doesnt require consent because it's just a random id. he doesn't get it.
@sneak thanks for the update, that really sucks. I will rethink my subscription then
@sneak this is horrible
@trashcatt the lead dev thinks that it doesnt need consent because it is just a random id lol
@sneak It looks like it only happens when downloading maps for later offline use, not continuously? So it could track the maps you're interested in, and maybe where you are while planning a trip, but not where you actually go?
@hans it sends a unique and permanent tracking id on every map download.
@hans client ip is city level geolocation. when you send a persistent unique id from changing client ips over time, i know which cities you were in, and when.
@hans this has nothing to do with which maps you download. you don't seem to understand ip geolocation.
@hans it’s fine if you don’t care about your own personal privacy but that doesn’t give anyone license to track people who do (and don’t consent to such tracking)
@hans that's because you don't understand tracking. it is objectively tracking regardless of whether you comprehend it as such or not. the idea that it needs informed consent is your clue.
that's because you don't understand tracking.
@hans if it weren't literally designed to discern one user from another, no unique identifier would be necessary.
@sneak holly molly I will read about it tomorrow. I use this app for cycling tracking.
@sneak years ago they had a weird response against a request to allow showing tagged surveillance cameras in OSMAnd
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