@yuki_is_bored@bsd.network problem is not stopping, discord, as much as anyone h8s it is really popular, so you can leech activity from there.
Problem is not having an alternative that may or may not be bridged to it
@enigmatico@fedi.absturztau.be @yuki_is_bored@bsd.network so like matrix, xmpp, irc another alike here
@enigmatico @Ninmi @replikvlt @yuki_is_bored You are right, but that said, at least some level of awareness of the social impact of software needs to be brought to the general public, otherwise any popularity that free software may acquire will be a fragile one. Promoting moral values does little good if people have no way of pursuing them, but on the other hand, if you provide such a way without saying what the destination is, nothing will stop them from straying.
@tirifto @enigmatico @Ninmi @replikvlt Honestly, I think Matrix are on that trajectory.
They're most likely the best contender for having feature parity as Discord.
That said, from my experience using Discord since literally 2016, nobody uses voice chat on public servers.
Sure, there are times like during big events but on a lot of public servers, they just don't for most of the time.
Most of the time the Discord experience is the same as Slack, just without the free msg archive limits.
@yuki_is_bored @tirifto @enigmatico @Ninmi @replikvlt
mattermost is spyware, rocketchat is buggy garbo, and all of them have to go through a centralized push service run by the developer of the mobile app (matrix included) if people want to use them in realtime on mobile, which is pretty much 100% of the userbase these days.
@brad @yuki_is_bored @enigmatico @Ninmi @tirifto @replikvlt
in apple land then everything has to go via APNS, and only the app publisher is allowed to push notifications to the app, so every federated server has to send notifications for all users of the app back to the publisher's server to be proxied to apple, to be sent to the phones.
this is why i can't have notifications for toot replies or DMs or stuff
@brad @yuki_is_bored @enigmatico @Ninmi @tirifto @replikvlt
there is precisely zero good free software for use on a mobile device
@brad @yuki_is_bored @enigmatico @Ninmi @tirifto @replikvlt
i meant system software
@brad @yuki_is_bored @enigmatico @Ninmi @tirifto @replikvlt unlike most free software advocates, i am not a free software *zealot* and i will not sacrifice my own effectiveness simply to avoid nonfree software. i use the best tool for the job because idgaf about licenses because copyright is an illusion promoted by the state
So the discord replacement is discord?
NGL, most features that most people uses in discord, matrix, rocket.chat and others already have it. They can and are a bit buggy but is still an good alternative.
And being on the middle of the road replacement won't ever change, discord has a bigger team, years ahead of development and more testers and money than all projects together, it's a cat and mouse race, when matrix implements all features from today discord, discord will already have 5 more and people will gave the same excuse.